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Interwiew for the Scandinavian Poodle Magazine

1) Lets start with your early years in dogís. Did you come from a doggy
> family? We would like for you to share with us a little about your
> family, how you live and where you live?

I come not from a doggy family, with any doubt my parents always loved my dogs, but they were not at the top of their mind.
My passion started from the first steps, as I was a little child I ran away from my mom hands, to go to stroke every dog I met.
I was so luky to can grow this big love for dogs as in the working sphere as in the family area: I became a professional groomer, against the opinion of my parents, as my school course has been of a different type; my husband Raimondo is very found of dogs too and together we breed Airedales. He is always available to follow me and to help me breeding dogs, with him and my son Guelfo, we often travel all around the world, to see new interesting dogs. Also my sister Sonia, a professional groomer she too, became very found of poodles and started very early to follow me to the dog shows, helping me to groom the dogs, so after some years I gave her for present, as he was a puppy, my swedish import multy ch. Racketeer Sinner or Saint, that prepared and showed from her gained many titles all around Europe. After that she prepared and showed successfully several other sobjects.
Me and my family live with all our Samarcandas i the north of Italy, in a country area between Milano and Bergamo, in two twins houses, with a large garden, sorraunded from corn fields. On extra of our Poodles and Airdales, our kind of zoo includes 2 Neapolitan Mastiffs, 2 Friesian horses, 5 European cats, 5 Canadian geese, 7 pickocks, 12 hens and my son's snake, of course also our birds are considered as a pet so we don't eat anyone of them, our record-breaking is a black hen 16 years old.

> 2) What year did you first start in Poodles and what first attracted
> you to this breed?

I had my first poodle when I was 13 , he was a black miniature and was my first dog, so I was sure he was the most beautiful one in the world, the most intelligent one, able to learn everything I was teaching him. At those time I vaguely knew something about the existence of dogs same breed of mine but bigger size, but I haven't seen anyone alive. Was destiny that introduced us eachother: school was just closed for summer holydays, so to spend time in a amazing way, I asked to the professional groomer who was bathing and clipping my miniature, to hep him. I was brushing a little dog on a grooming table, when the man told me to take the dog off asap becouse Lady was coming! I did it just in time, then a beautyful standard poodle girl came in into the shop, in a jump got over the small gate that was closing the grooming area, one more jump and she was on the table and gave me one paw asking to brush her.
In that istant I decided she was the most marvellous and graceful creature ever have seen and no doubt I had to have a standard, from that on few years my desire came true....


> 3) Please tell us about your very first Standard Poodle and tell us a
> little about its breeding?

My first standard came on 1983 from Germany, it wasn't so easy for me to have him, becouse on that time I was very young, I had some problems with the language and the price for my means at that age was too high, anyway after had save money to buy him and with the help of a friend translating for me, arrived Devil (multy ch. Black Baiazzo von der Weissen Birke ) sired by ch. Curlfinch Enrico and out of ch. Warwick Black Alice. On his pedigree there were English and Scandinavian lines.
This dog was a great winner in the ring, a great pal at home, endowed with great intelligence and temperament, he was understanding everything i told him, he was a great friend. Many of my Samarcanda poodles come down from this great dog.

> 4) At that time, how many Poodles were normally shown in the breed and
> please tell us what the quality of the breed was like back then
> compared to the quality of today? Who were the main breeders in Italy
> and who did you consider to be your main rival in the show ring?

At that time in Italy really few standard were entered in the rings, and were almost white, as on those days there were two breeders, one in the north area that stopped breeding after a while, an other one in Rome, well known as " Gens Valeria " that now a day is not breeding any more standards, but that had the merit to introduce this size in Italy, until than all the subjects of any other colors showed were quite all coming from France, Germany or Switzerland.
The quality of those dogs, was suitable for the period in whom they lived, with great good points as the dark pigmentation, the strong chin, the ear conch thick and long, but with also the faults that many dogs of those days had, as too much long in body, too much heavy heads, not so much elegant in the movement. Also the handling and the gooming was not the best, but we must don't forget that we are talking of almost 30 years ago, so in every breed the training and the handling was different from today.
Now-adays in the dog show you can see more professionalism, dogs are indeed much more well prepared and handled than in the past, the quality of the poodles and of all the other dogs is generally higher. Saying thanks to good imports and the introduction of new blood done from the breeders, today the Italian poodles can cut a nice figure in several Europan show rings.
Now in Italy there are many poodles breeders, but no one except me is selecting just the standard, some one of the breeders of the smollest sizes has also one or two standard bitches, with whom time to time they produce a litter, but after that the two oldest breeders I told you stopped, has been no one who dedicated his breeding program to this wonderful, but demanding variety.
Who is my main rival in the ring? Simply me and myself ! And this not becouse could be not enough competition, I show often my dogs abroad, where standard poodles are qualitatively and quantitatively well represented, but I have a personal life philosophy, I enjoy watch my dogs in the ring. May I win or may I loose, the most important think for me is honestly be sure to bring back home the best dog. So if my dog is beaten from a dog I consider of a lower level, I don't grieve too much and I am pleased to have mine, being sure about his value. It is aproblem if I win and , in the deep of my heart, I know that the dog beaten is better than mine, the win has no significance, and there is something that drives me to inquiry, to try to understand what I need to do, to improve more my subjects, may be using in my breeding program the dog that I have beaten.
> 5) What year did you breed your first litter? Tell us about this
> combination and why you did this breeding?

The first Samarcanda litter I produced was on 1985, the dam was a daughter of my German dog Devil with an English bitch from Kertellas, the sire was an English dog coming from the lines of Springet and Montravia. It was really a mess : no fewer than 13 puppies were born, in an apartement, in a time when no one in Italy was asking for a standard, so very hardly I gave for free all them to my friends and friends of them. I kept for me two girls that I gave to the most reliable friends, living in an apartament downtown I really couldn't keep with me too many dogs. From this first litter are coming down several of the Samarcanda of today's
> 6) Have you continued on from this first breeding or did you change and
> move to a different direction?

During the years I differentiate my choices in my breeding program, as I told before, several of my dogs have behind them my firsts dogs, in some of litters you can see on the dam line 7 generations of Samarcanda poodles. In some other litters there are my dogs only in the firsts generations, in some other again both the parents are not born at my home but are bred from other breeders.
I think that you mustn't be blind breeding, if there are good reproducers, better of those you have, or suitable to correct the faults you have at the moment in your breeding dogs, in my opinion it is right to use them, looking for the best result you can have. No doubt that exist an emotional bond towards particoular subjects, and indeed can appreciate to have around you their progeny, but this doesn't meen to neglect a careful selection that entail some choices.


> 7) If you could just mention one of your dogs as your very best, which
> dog would you choose and why?

It's not easy to mention just one dog, several one for many reasons deserve of notice.
Just to mention one I can talk of Morgan, Multi ch. and European ch. Samarcanda Italians Do It Better, this white standard is sired by Am. ch. Graphic Poltergeist and out of Multi ch. , European ch., Multi Bis winner Samarcanda Nuova Ossessione. In my opinion he is an example of balance and attitude, he has a great costruction and expression, very well angulated, with an extra dark pigmentation, hair of excellent quality, with a movement fluid and powerful, he has a great attitude to the show, he is living as his life has to be all the time in a ring, always in free standing as being in front of a judge. This dog gained many BIS and several title all around Europe.
He has exactly what I look for in a poodle, he is an eye catcher, taking the breath when you watch him, a real poodle.
> 8) Have you imported any dogs to help with your breeding program?

Yes, I think that time to time is very important to introduce new blood in your breeding program, during the years, nearly 25, in more than one occasion I did it, the most important thing is to choose the right subjects.
After have started with my firsts standard poodles, it was a great luck and honor for me to meet Mrs. Margaret Vear, from whom I imported my first Scandinavian dog "Grieg" Multi ch. and Multi BIS winner Racketeer Dance with a Stranger (ch. Twin Tops I Am What I Am x ch. Racketeer Fallen Angel), a very correct dog, with a great costruction, who turned out a great producer and was the foundations of my new selection.
Some years later arrived two new Racketeers, litter brother and sister : "Sinner" multi ch. and BIS winner Racketeer Sinner or Saint (ch.Racketeer Exquisit Sinner x ch. Harbovi Hell Cat) and "Naquel" Multi ch. and BIS winner Racketeer Sinner in .
Sinner was a great winner in the show rings ( he gained more than 18 titles all around Europe) and breeding him with Grieg's daughters let me produce a more modern type of what I had in the past. Recently we missed this great gentleman, he let a vacuum in all us.
Sinner sister, Naquel, was a great show dog too and in spite of had produced only two litter, a great dam.
From Finland came also "Tallulah" , ch. Scarpebox per Samarcanda (Multy ch. Avion Totally Foxy at Harbovi x ch.Hair-Line Tequila) bred from Mrs. Maarit Nord, a spectacular bitch of gret size but very feminine, charming and seductive as a shecat, she is now a day our oldlady of the home, still in great form in spite of her age of 12. She is the dam of several champions, whom she trasmitted her high class, distinction, dark colour and some time her size too.....
Once again from Scandinavia I imported my first brown poodle "Fiona" ch. Fidel Flying Noodles ( ch. Zelante General Edifidel x Moodles French Noodles) bred from Mrs. Eva Niggard from Norway. This vivacius chocolate cookie conquered all us for her simpaty and intelligence and became the foundations bitch of all my brown line.
Than became the time to import new blood from USA, and arrived "Bruce" ch. Cabryn American Boy a Samarcanda (Am. ch. Ravendune O' Bannion x Cabryn Czarny Suka) a black dog bred from Mrs. Carolyn O' Rourke. He has a great structure, a coat incredible for density and color, a beautyful head with small very dark expressive eyes, he had exactly what I needed to improove someone of the faults I noticed in my dogs. Bruce is a really great producer, with every dam you give him he reproduce himself.
Once again from the States arrived the white girl "Layla" and the silver girl "Leggs".
Layla, ch Penndragon Samarcanda Benicia ( Am. ch. Alekai Mikimoto on Fifth x Am. ch Serecunda Pearl) bred from Mrs. Kim & Mr. Rick Bates, is the greatest expression of femininity, in my opinion she was the perfect dam for Morgan, and watching their children although their young age while I'm writing, I think I was in right.
Leggs, ch. Graphic Silverstocking (Am. ch. Graphic Great Scott x Am. ch Graphic Double Platinum) bred from Mrs. Florence Graham, has a great pedigree and is my foundation bitch from whom I started breed this fascinating color, but now a day the first Samarcanda silver standards are really young, anyway I can declare myself really satisfied and lucky ,for the great result on my first litter.
Last but not least there is "Michael", ch. Piedmont How About That (Am. ch. Torchlight Attention to Details x ch. Pamplona Tina Turner) a black male bred in England, but grown up in Spain and sold to me from Mr. Carlos Renau. This dog is the jocker of the home, it is uncommon see him not chewing one of his toys, or bring all them on his favorite pillow, he carryes on his pedigree very important American and European blood lines and turns out to be avery good stud.


> 9) As breeders you are aware of the value in quality breeding bitches.
> Is their one special bitch from your kennel that has proved her worth
> as a producer of consistent, quality offspring?

In my opinion there are two different types of breeding bitches, with the first one it's easyer obtain very soon good resoults, becouse they are the type who pass on not so much of themself, they riproduce exactly small copies of the stud you give them, in this case it's enough give them a good dog to obtain a predominance of excellent sobjects. If I have to mention a typical example it is my black femel ch. Scarpebox per Samarcanda, that mated from two of my males ( Sinner and Bruce ) produced with both several champions, but of a very different type and in any case very close to the one of the sire.
With the second type whe have breeding bitches very strong on the genetic profile, they reproduce in their offspring their good points, but also eventual faults, in a more or less enphasized way depending from the stud used. With this kind of bitches perhaps it's harder obtain soon good resoults , but if you are so clever or may be so lucky to guess the right male, the sons will be a good mix of both the parents, but with less faults and all the good points of them. For example Naquel (ch. Racketeer Sinner in Silk ) bred with two different studs, King ( Multi ch. Topscore Contradiction ) and my English dog Michael (ch. Piedmont Attention to Details) produced sobjects between the two types, in whom it was possible clearly recognize characteristics of both the parents.
> 10) Of all the stud dogs that you have used over the years is their one
> that stands apart from the others that has proved to be a valuable
> influence to your breeding?

I like use studs of ther breeders, becouse I think that the best way to make progress is to watch around yourself and when possible use the best breeding dogs available.
Among all the dog that more had an influence upon my Samarcandas no doubt it is "King" ( Multi ch. Topscore Contradiction ) this well famous poodle, bred with my bitch Naquel, produced a great litter: 7 puppies, 5 became champions in many European countryes, on add two of the five became European champions and one Canadian and American Ch., they also won several BIS. About the other two , the one sold abroad is having great results in obidience and tracking work, while mine black girl, in spite of being a marvellous femel, has never been showed becouse, giving thanks to her youthful exuberance, incured in a slight accident running wild in my garden and this compromised her show carrer.
As well as the show results these dogs are proveing their turn to be good producers, passing on the type , the movement and the attitude to the ring of their grandsire King, generation after generation.

> 11) Please tell us about some of your favourite and most popular
> Poodles and why
> you have selected these dogs above the others?

Itís not so easy choose only one dog , because many poodles impressed me for different things, considering the movement I can say : Am.Ch. Graphic Poltergeist, Multi ch. Topscore Contradiction, Am. Ch. Smash J.P. Platina King, Am.Ch. Cotian Style and Splash.
For the type: ch. Avatar Concord, Lake Cove Thatís my boy, JC Pioneer Kaiser,Am. Ch. Smash JP Win a Victory , Multi ch. Milamarte Bonaparte , kalina s tzvetochnoy Polyany
For the beautiful head: Multi ch. Racketeer Exquisit Sinner, Am. Ch. Alekai Mikimoto on Fifth,†Multi ch. Topscore Easy Money, Am. Ch. Serekunda Pearl
All they are gorgeus dogs and great winners, with something special that distinguish the extraordinary dogs.

> 12) How many Poodle litters have you bred?

I am breeding since more than 25 years, in every litter I keep for me one or two puppies, giving most of them in custody to friends of mine , in this way they can have a single baby life, as they grow up, depending from their show quality , I decide if enter them to the dog shows, or just breed with them, or let them have a pet life.
With this sistem I have a large flock of breeding dogs. In the past time, becouse room problems, I did a litter around every three years, now a day I breed 2/3 litters in a year depending from which different colour I wont, preferably I mate my bitches in winter time, so puppies born in Spring time can enjoy the room in the garden, they can have all the movement they need for an helty growth and develop a correct interaction with the adults of my pack , puppies leave my home not before 11/ 12 weecks old, so when they reach their new homes they are covered by two shoots and have a good relaction with other dogs and the people.
> 13) As breeders we often discuss health and problems within our breed,
> We would like to know if you do any sort of testing and have you
> encountered any major problems over the years?

In Italy any kind of test is required from the Kennel Club for Standard poodles. Anyway I prefer check all my breeding dogs for HIPS before use them. Some time I do it officially and I send the Xray to the vet office in Great Britain and in Italy too ,some other time is only my private vet that is checking them for me, just becouse I wont to know how it is the situation of my dogs.
> 14) Do you think that most breeders have an open mind when it comes to
> health related problems in Poodles?

I say wellcome to the tests, we always must go on in this sphere; but I think it is also good to use the sistem of the time when there weren't these tests, using only healty dogs, children, grandchildren and progeny of healty dogs, who lived a long and happy life.
Could be also nice talk about the mental health of poodles, that is very important too, douring the years I remarked, and this is valid for all the sizes, an increase of poodles with problems of temperament, some one only very slight, some other very serious.
This is really heavy, and very bad for the breed, the poodle. Any size it is, he must be a gorgeus, intelligent, smart, obidient, and happy pal, he masn't demonstrate any attitude of unjustified aggressivity or fear. These emotions are not tipicol of the breed, many poodle breeders are ready don't to use a dog without a perfect hips score, but after that they have any doubt to use as a briding subject a dog with a not tipicol temperament. In my opinion this is very sad, and very bad for the breed. For me a real poodle is beautyful inside as outside, he is the genius of the canine breeds in a formal dress.

> 15) How many dogs do you currently have? How do you house the dogs and
> please tell us your day to day routine with the dogs?

Our property includes two twins detached houses with a large garden each, one we use upstairs for our guests and downstairs for the kennel boy and the walping rooms, the other one is where we live upstairs, me, my husband, my son an 4/5 poodles; downstairs we have a smaller apartament with my office and here live 6 more poodles, they have a backyard where they are free to go in and out.
Airedale terriers live in brick-work kennel, every room has long outdoor runnings with one side covered for the raining days.
Every day routine of our dogs it's very simply,wake up 7.30 am. and first run free in the garden, after that they come back inside for a small breckfast with dry coockies, than they have a rest until noon when they have a second run in the garden, that depending from the weather can be for a more or less long time, than again inside until 7,30 pm. when they go out again before the main meal. We let them go out for a while before midnight once again.
Puppies born in my bedroom and remain there for the first 3 weecks, after that we moove them in one of the rooms we call walping room, where they have more opportunity to walk around. At the age of 5/6 weeks in the middle of the day, they spend time out side in a special pen for them, from whom they can see and interact safely with all the adults .
All the poodes live free in a close-knit pack, girls are separated when in season to prevent undesiderated matings or fightings.
> 16) We would be interested to hear how you feed and what you feed the
> dogs? What is your bathing routine and how often do you bath and what
> are your secrets for preparing for shows?

As I told around 8.00 am. my dogs have a light meal with some bisquits and 8.00 pm. they have the main meal, we use dry food of good quality, that changes from dog to dog depending from he age and the necessity of each one. For those off one's food we add in the bowl some fresh food with some spoons of warm water, just to make a kind of sauce topping the dry food.
About puppies, I start wean them around 4 weeks, feeding them on the beginning with baby food mixed with goat milk, than after few days I mince dry puppy food in a mixer, obtaining a powder that I add to the goat milk, to make a sort of creme, finally in a couple of weeks I feed them with the normal puppy food wet until soften it in the got milk. Around 8 weeks I change the milk using skimmed cow milk, just once in a day, and feeding them two more time with only dry puppy food.
Into my home there are usually from 10 to 12 Standard poodles, some of them in full coat, all the other in a pet trim; every day I bath one of them, so from one bath to the next it takes no more than 10/15 days.
Dogs during their show career are bathed usually every 7/10 days, depending from the color and in any case always the day before and the day after the show, to take off the spray. In Italy weather is very hot and this doesn't help the coat cure; to maintain the hair of show dogs I use a light oil to avoid it to get too dry or felt, while to prepare them for the show I use two different kind of shampoo: one more aggressive to clean and remoove oil, the other specific for the texture and to give bulky and strenght to the coat, as a final touch I love to applay a moderate quantity of conditioner, to nourish and moisturize hair.

> 17) How often do you attend shows? Please share with us some of your
> most memorable wins?

We spend quite every weekend to the show along all the year, exept when is full summer and in Italy the weather become too hot for the dogs, beeing our summer show outdoor . From time to time in summer we attend some show abroad, in the north of Europe where the weather is a little bit fresher .
It is not easy answer to this question, becouse many victories, for different reasons leave something in your memory. But if I have to mention just one among all, I can say the BOB of Morgan ( Ch. Samarcanda Italians Do It Better ) at the European dog show 2008 in Hungary. The judge was changed few days before the show, I didn't know the type of dog she could like, on add the competition was very hard, at high level, in champion class dogs were entered some sobjects winning in many important shows, showed in a perfect way. It has been really amazing to enjoy of such a great beauty, and it has been a great honor win in front of dogs of such a quality.
But surprises were not finished, becouse a black bitch bred from me, Giulia ( Ch. Samarcanda Over The Rainbow ) got CACIB and BOS , beating a large number of bitches. Indeed a great day for Samarcanda poodles.

> 18) What are your views on the standard/quality of judges? Do you think
> that most judges have a good understanding of the breed?

Not every judge are the same,some one loves misure or count, for this kind of judges a dog is seen as a whole of parts that must correspond to fixed mesures, the dog can be marvellous, but if he has some centimeters too much or too less in any part of the body as highness, or longness, head, hears etc. they penalize him lingering on details, or loseing sight on the whole.
Some other judges can catch at glance the details that make one dog a champion, they judge the whole, the harmony given from the adherence to the standard of a breed, not from a cold interpretation.
> 19) Do you think the Standard Poodles have improved over the years? In
> your opinion what areas do you think need improving?

No doubt the breed is changed a lot douring the years, actually poodles tend to have a more compact body, rear angulations more marked, heads more narrow and elegant of their ancestors, as well is changed the handling and the grooming, that now a day surely is more careful of what has been in the past. Certainly this is a trend followed, with rare exceptions, world wide. Incrdible to say, one of the few countries where you can still find "old type" poodles is exactly France, where the breed had is origin, obviously this doesn't concern all the breeders, but in many cases in those areas you can meet many sobjects looking like the original old type.

> 20) We would like to know what are the most important elements in a
> Standard Poodle to you as a breeder?

The steady characteristics with whom I choose the breeding dogs are of two kind: the first is based on fisical characteristics who I care about very much: a solid structure never been heavy or rough, a long neck, a chunky body, peremptorily a high tail set, excelent angulations, long narrow and elegant head, a good quality of coat and pigmentation, free action and powerful gait. The second one is the temperament. A real poodle must have a natural attitude, style, elegance that distinguish the breed, otherwise is just a dog correct on every point of the standard but common and anonymous, destined never emerge among the others.
These characteristics pass on generation by generation, so I consider necessary do a careful selection of the breeding subjects, taking their characteristics into consideration under the point of view of the temperament and the morfology

> 21) We would be interested to hear your thoughts on the breed as a
> whole? Do you think that any one country is producing better Poodles?
> How would you compare the Poodles in Europe and the Unites States to
> those currently being shown in Italy?

I don't belive is possible to make a objective comparison, between poodles bred in Europe with the American one, undoubtedly except rare exceptions, in USA we face high quality subjects, with great costructions, great movers, all dogs of high show level.
Behind all these dogs, there is careful work of selection, supported by a great availability of different blood lines, to whom breeders have luck to drow on, there is a great cure on details, the dog is chosen, bred and prepared to the ring in a very professional way, nothing is let at random, in most cases dogs are entrusted to professional handlers, who supervise them along their career.
On the majority of the European countries, mentality is quite different, the level of showing in the ring is very distinguished,in the same class you can see dogs in great show conditions and other subjects look like just run awy from the back yard, obviously, also if you face a good dog, will be hard give him the right value, becouse not brought out from a right presentation.
Anyway good subjects are well represented whether in Europe or in USA, so it is not easy for me say in what could be better dogs made in USA respect the European one, all depends from each subject, in my opinion the best results, breeding poodles, you can get mixing European and American blood lines, events demonstrate it, its enough watch the pedigrees of the greater winners of the last years.

> 22) Please mention a few of the best Standard Poodles you have seen
> over the years and why they left an impression?

It isn't so easy answer this question, they have been so many the dogs during the years who striked me for one reason or an other.
Anyway if I have to choose:Ch. Racketeer Exquisit Sinner, Ch. Lake Cove That's My Boy, Ch. Avatar Concord, Ch. Topscore Contradiction,Ch.Canmoy Rubiazo Ch. Huffish on Every Street ,Ch. JC Pioneer Kaiser, Ch. Del Zarzoso Gula Gula, Ch. Graphic Poltergeist,Ch. Brighton Keepsake , Ch, Cotian Style and Splash, Ch. Greg-Mar Glory Bound, Ch. Randenn TriStar Affirmation,....
All gorgeous dogs, also if different one from the other, joined from a show attitude, from a powerful far-advancing gait , everyone having that detail that distinguh a nice dog from an extraordinary one.

> 23) Looking ahead, what are your future plans as a breeder?

I don't have a real plan, I have some ideas in my mind, objectives about how to reach my ideal type of poodle, I have already chousen the breeding dogs I shall use in my breeding program in the next future, then time will tell, everything depend from the results obtained from these mates, from the good points orfrom the faults I shall notice in the next generations, when it's a question of living beeing I don't think it's sensible make long-term programs.
> 24) If you could change anything that you have done as a breeder in the
> past, what would you change and why?

I wouldn't change nothing, not because I haven't done any mistake, but becouse everyone, good or bad, has been an experience useful to ripen me as a breeder and as a person.
As it happens to all the breeders, some times a mate works well and gives you high quality sobjects, some other times you are not so luky, but anyway my poodles, wether they are great champions or only pets have an important part, wether they win in a show or simply they make happy a person living next to them, I am happy to have done them born.

> 25) Our last question and maybe not so easy to answer but we are going
> to put you on the spot and demand an answer from you. If you could
> select JUST ONE POODLE to represent the breed standard, who would it be
> and why?
If I have to mention only one poodle to represent the breed standard, I mention with pleasure " the KING " Multi ch BIS W. Topscore Contradiction.
Why? you ask, well I tell you "Balance", in this word is described everything, nothing in him is extreme, nothing is wrong, he is correct in every his part. He bringed the bred to the highest levels, gaining inthe show rings all over the world, becouse his beauty, elegance, sweet temperament and typifying of the breed standard, I think he is a whorty ambassador of the poodle in the world.

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